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02/22/2022 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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02:11:59 PM Start
02:13:00 PM HB281 || HB282
02:13:03 PM Fy 23 Budget Overview: Department of Environmental Conservation
03:05:36 PM Overview: Governor's Budget Amendments
03:30:04 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
-- Recessed to 02/23/22 at 9:00 am --
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+= HB 281 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 282 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Overview: Department of Environmental TELECONFERENCED
Conservation by Commissioner Jason Brune and
Ruth Kostik, Administrative Services Director
+ Overview: Governor's Budget Amendments by TELECONFERENCED
Neil Steininger, Director, Office of Management
Budget
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
HOUSE BILL NO. 281                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;    making   reappropriations;    making                                                                    
     supplemental   appropriations;  making   appropriations                                                                    
     under art.  IX, sec.  17(c), Constitution of  the State                                                                    
     of  Alaska,  from  the  constitutional  budget  reserve                                                                    
     fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 282                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive  mental  health program;  making  capital                                                                    
     appropriations  and  supplemental  appropriations;  and                                                                    
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:13:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^FY   23  BUDGET   OVERVIEW:  DEPARTMENT   OF  ENVIRONMENTAL                                                                  
CONSERVATION                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:13:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JASON  BRUNE,  COMMISSIONER,   DEPARTMENT  OF  ENVIRONMENTAL                                                                    
CONSERVATION (via  teleconference), introduced  a PowerPoint                                                                    
presentation    titled    "Department    of    Environmental                                                                    
Conservation: House  Finance Committee," dated  February 22,                                                                    
2022 (copy  on file).  He reviewed the  department's mission                                                                    
on slide 2:                                                                                                                     
     Conserving, improving, and  protecting Alaska's natural                                                                    
     resources  and  environment   to  enhance  the  health,                                                                    
     safety,   and  economic   and   social  well-being   of                                                                    
     Alaskans.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner    Brune    addressed   the    Department    of                                                                    
Environmental  Conservation's   (DEC)  values  on   slide  3                                                                    
including     objectivity,    accountability,     integrity,                                                                    
collaboration,  and customer  service (with  an emphasis  on                                                                    
customer  service for  the regulated  community). He  stated                                                                    
the  department  wanted  to  ensure  it  was  a  partner  in                                                                    
protecting  human   health  and   the  environment   and  in                                                                    
advancing  the state's  economy. He  turned to  slide 4  and                                                                    
highlighted   the  department's   focus   on  four   primary                                                                    
components  including  air   quality,  water,  environmental                                                                    
health,  and spill  prevention and  response.  He noted  the                                                                    
department also had a Division of Administrative Services.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Brune advanced to  slide 5 and provided various                                                                    
metrics  from 2021.  He detailed  the department  had issued                                                                    
over  11,000 permits,  approvals,  certifications, and  plan                                                                    
reviews.   The   department   had   conducted   over   2,000                                                                    
inspections  and  site  visits. He  noted  approximately  25                                                                    
percent  of  the  inspections  were   virtual  or  had  used                                                                    
technology. The  department had focused  on trying  to limit                                                                    
its environmental footprint and  reducing paper use as well.                                                                    
He  elaborated   that  with  nearly  85   percent  of  DEC's                                                                    
employees teleworking,  the department  wanted to  make sure                                                                    
materials were  accessible for people working  from home. He                                                                    
relayed that nearly 200 filing  cabinets had been eliminated                                                                    
and documents had been scanned,  which made teleworking much                                                                    
easier.   The    department   had   provided    nearly   350                                                                    
presentations and  trainings to Alaskans.  Additionally, DEC                                                                    
was focused  on employee retention  and had put  an emphasis                                                                    
on  training   for  employees.  The  average   employee  had                                                                    
received about 50 hours of training in the past year.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:17:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Brune reviewed  the department's five divisions                                                                    
and leadership positions on slide  6. He listed the names of                                                                    
individuals in  leadership positions including,  Emma Pokon,                                                                    
Deputy  Commissioner; Ruth  Kostik, Administrative  Services                                                                    
Director;   Christina  Carpenter,   Director,  Division   of                                                                    
Environmental  Health;   Alice  Edwards,  Director   of  the                                                                    
Division  of Air  Quality; Tiffany  Larson, Director  of the                                                                    
Division of Spill Prevention and  Response; and Randy Bates,                                                                    
Director   of  the   Division  of   Water.  He   stated  the                                                                    
individuals' combined state service exceeded 100 years.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:18:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RUTH  KOSTIK, ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES DIRECTOR,  DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  ENVIRONMENTAL  CONSERVATION,  OFFICE OF  MANAGEMENT  AND                                                                    
BUDGET, OFFICE  OF THE  GOVERNOR, reviewed  the department's                                                                    
operating budget funding history  on slide 7, reflecting the                                                                    
governor's  amended   budget  in  the  FY   23  column.  She                                                                    
highlighted  the DEC  budget had  been relatively  flat over                                                                    
the  past  four  years.  The increase  in  FY  23  primarily                                                                    
reflected primacy initiatives that  would be discussed later                                                                    
in the presentation. She noted  the increase was accompanied                                                                    
by an  increase in  37 positions. She  added that  the slide                                                                    
did  not  reflect any  of  the  federal infrastructure  bill                                                                    
funds, which would come in a separate appropriations bill.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson referenced  the  statement that  the                                                                    
infrastructure bill  would be  in a  separate appropriation.                                                                    
She asked if  there would be additional  personnel needed to                                                                    
ensure  the  state  was spending  the  infrastructure  money                                                                    
appropriately. She  asked the presenters to  highlight where                                                                    
the funds may be throughout the presentation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kostik answered  that roughly $65 million  would come in                                                                    
through state clean water and  drinking water revolving loan                                                                    
funds. She  detailed that most  of the $65 million  would go                                                                    
out  as  loans  to  communities  for  water  and  wastewater                                                                    
systems.  The  bill  reauthorized  the  Village  Safe  Water                                                                    
Program  and included  $40  million  from the  Environmental                                                                    
Protection Agency (EPA), which  did not reflect an increase.                                                                    
The increase  in Village Safe  Water was largely  with funds                                                                    
coming through the Indian Health  Service (IHS) and for lead                                                                    
communities. The  department was  still working on  what the                                                                    
staffing would look like with the administration.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson  requested  to know  more  when  the                                                                    
department learned the information.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:21:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  referred to Infrastructure  Investment and                                                                    
Jobs  Act (IIJA)  funds  for  clean water.  He  asked if  it                                                                    
looked like  the resources  would significantly  address the                                                                    
existing clean water issues in rural areas.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kostik answered there was  about $3 billion going to IHS                                                                    
nationwide. The  state anticipated  receiving $2  billion to                                                                    
$2.1  billion of  the total  over the  next five  years. She                                                                    
explained the  number was based  off of what  was documented                                                                    
in the sanitation deficiency system  used by IHS to document                                                                    
rural needs.  She noted that  DEC entered projects  into the                                                                    
system as well.  The number was based off  of the calculated                                                                    
need when  the [federal]  bill had  passed. She  stated that                                                                    
more  projects  may  arise  and   costs  may  increase  with                                                                    
inflation  over time,  but the  incoming  funding should  be                                                                    
able  to address  or come  close to  addressing the  need in                                                                    
underserved and unserved communities in rural Alaska.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:22:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kostik turned  to slide 8 and discussed  the transfer of                                                                    
the  Exxon  Valdez  Oil  Spill  Settlement  Trustee  Council                                                                    
(EVOSTC) administrative  budget from the Department  of Fish                                                                    
and  Game   (DFG).  She  expounded  DEC   would  assume  the                                                                    
responsibility   to  provide   accounting  and   procurement                                                                    
support for the council. The  change was technical and would                                                                    
not impact the  EVOS operations. She noted  the six trustees                                                                    
(three  federal and  three  state  members) had  unanimously                                                                    
agreed on  the transfer.  She added that  Commissioner Brune                                                                    
was currently the chair of the council.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kostik  turned to slide  9 and highlighted  an increment                                                                    
to  DEC  Administrative  Services  to  cover  the  costs  of                                                                    
administering the EVOS  budget. She noted the  item had been                                                                    
inadvertently missed  in the governor's original  budget and                                                                    
was  included in  the amended  budget. There  was a  similar                                                                    
amount decremented from the DFG budget.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon stated  that  a  couple of  committee                                                                    
members  were  on  the  DFG   subcommittee.  He  stated  the                                                                    
increment  had come  up as  a  discussion item  in the  past                                                                    
couple of weeks. He recalled  the subcommittee had been told                                                                    
the change  seemed like  the right thing  to do.  He relayed                                                                    
the  subcommittee  had  not  heard  a  concrete  reason  the                                                                    
transfer should take place. He asked for more detail.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kostik deferred to the commissioner.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Brune  answered  that  he  had  been  spending                                                                    
significant  time  with  the EVOSTC  staff  working  on  the                                                                    
winding  down. He  detailed that  the council  had allocated                                                                    
funds to  approximately $150 million  for projects  over the                                                                    
past  year. There  was approximately  $160 million  in funds                                                                    
remaining. He  had been spending  a lot  of time day  to day                                                                    
that  DFG Commissioner  Vincent-Lang  had not  been able  to                                                                    
spend. He reported it made sense  to move the council to DEC                                                                    
where the oversight would be  occurring. He relayed that the                                                                    
budget  and   transfer  was  approved  unanimously   by  the                                                                    
council.  He  explained that  the  council  believed it  was                                                                    
appropriate make the transfer to DEC.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:26:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon  asked   if  there  were  operational                                                                    
efficiencies to be gained by the move.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Brune  replied that  he would  not characterize                                                                    
the change as resulting  in operational efficiencies. He was                                                                    
personally  spending the  most time  on the  subject and  it                                                                    
made sense to have the council  fall under the DEC budget if                                                                    
his  position  was  leading the  state's  efforts.  In  that                                                                    
regard, he believed it resulted in efficiencies.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  asked if it  was accurate to say  that the                                                                    
remaining resources  would be spent  on projects  related to                                                                    
fish and fish resource issues.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Brune answered in  the negative. There were all                                                                    
sorts  of   injured  resources  from  the   spill  including                                                                    
herring. He  shared that  over $30  million had  been funded                                                                    
for mariculture projects. There  had been additional funding                                                                    
for  marine   mammals  and  anthropological   resources.  He                                                                    
highlighted two projects  receiving approximately $8 million                                                                    
to $10 million for a  cultural resource museum in Kodiak and                                                                    
Anchorage.  He was  happy to  provide the  list of  projects                                                                    
funded at  the October  meeting. He noted  that some  of the                                                                    
projects were fish related, but not all.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:28:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz clarified  that he  had meant  the council                                                                    
related more  to aquatic resources than  land issues related                                                                    
to DEC.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Brune  answered  that  DEC  dealt  with  water                                                                    
quality  and impaired  water bodies,  which was  one of  the                                                                    
recently funded projects. He elaborated  there was a habitat                                                                    
subaccount   where  land   acquisitions  had   occurred  and                                                                    
upgrades to  lands had  occurred on the  Kenai and  in other                                                                    
spill impacted  areas. He expounded  there had  been efforts                                                                    
to try to improve habitat  for species that were impacted by                                                                    
the  spill  to  ensure   species  could  recover  or  remain                                                                    
recovered.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:29:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Kostik  moved  to  slide   10  and  discussed  building                                                                    
maintenance  and   operations.  The  department   owned  one                                                                    
building, the environmental  health laboratory in Anchorage.                                                                    
The  building   maintenance  and   operations  appropriation                                                                    
funded  the  maintenance  and  utilities  for  the  building                                                                    
including  two  maintenance  staff.  She  relayed  that  the                                                                    
building  utility   rates  had  increased.  She   noted  the                                                                    
appropriation  had not  received an  increment since  FY 12.                                                                    
She highlighted that utility costs  had increased across the                                                                    
board: water and  sewer were up 66  percent, electricity was                                                                    
up 59  percent, natural gas  was up 35 percent,  solid waste                                                                    
was up 64  percent, and biohazard waste was  up 211 percent.                                                                    
The department  was just finishing  up an  energy efficiency                                                                    
project  that was  providing a  large  reduction in  utility                                                                    
cost, but savings  were paying off a loan that  paid for the                                                                    
improvements.  She  explained  that  it had  been  based  on                                                                    
utilities  at a  point in  time. While  savings would  occur                                                                    
over the years,  utility rates would continue to  go up. She                                                                    
stated the increment was a  much needed increase to the base                                                                    
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kostik  turned to  slide 11  and discussed  an increment                                                                    
related  to  primacy  over  the  Resource  Conservation  and                                                                    
Recovery Act  (RCRA), a federal law  covering the management                                                                    
of  solid waste.  She highlighted  that Subtitle  C was  the                                                                    
management of hazardous waste. She  elaborated that in 2000,                                                                    
DEC received  approval from the  EPA to oversee  Subtitle D,                                                                    
the  management   of  nonhazardous  waste.   The  department                                                                    
already  had  statutory  authority to  assume  primacy  over                                                                    
Subtitle C.  She noted  that Alaska and  Iowa were  the only                                                                    
two  states without  primacy over  the  program. She  stated                                                                    
that Alaska  would benefit from  instate oversight  of RCRA.                                                                    
She  elaborated  that  EPA staff  in  Seattle  were  heavily                                                                    
focused  on   enforcement,  whereas   DEC  would   focus  on                                                                    
technical  and compliance  assistance. She  stated that  DEC                                                                    
staff   were   instate   and  understood   Alaska's   unique                                                                    
challenges.   She  added   that  DEC   would  have   greater                                                                    
regulatory  flexibility  than  EPA.   The  request  was  for                                                                    
$830,000 and  six staff. The  department did  not anticipate                                                                    
adding  additional staff  in future  years. She  relayed the                                                                    
amount was  the anticipated  base for  the program  once the                                                                    
state  achieved  primacy.  After  the  anticipated  two-year                                                                    
application  process, there  would  be  federal grant  funds                                                                    
available  to  offset  $400,000 undesignated  general  funds                                                                    
(UGF) with federal receipts.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  referenced Ms.  Kostik's statement                                                                    
that the  federal focus was  on enforcement and  the state's                                                                    
focus would not  be on enforcement. He asked  what was wrong                                                                    
with enforcement.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Kostik   replied   there  was   nothing   wrong   with                                                                    
enforcement, but  the department would rather  help entities                                                                    
get  better   and  do  better  while   providing  compliance                                                                    
assistance rather than using fines and penalties.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Brune  clarified  that  the  department  would                                                                    
enforce  when   needed.  The   department  wanted   to  work                                                                    
collaboratively  with the  regulated  community  on a  daily                                                                    
basis  to  ensure  human health  and  the  environment  were                                                                    
protected  and  that  hazardous waste  was  handled  in  the                                                                    
appropriate way.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen asked  if the  department had  any                                                                    
other   authorities    when   it   came    to   reprimanding                                                                    
mismanagement of  hazardous waste or other  DEC infractions.                                                                    
She asked  if the  department's only existing  mechanism was                                                                    
to  fine  people  and  report it  to  law  enforcement.  She                                                                    
wondered if the department had any policing ability.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:34:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Brune  replied  that  with  the  exception  of                                                                    
limited circumstances,  the department  did not  have ticket                                                                    
writing authority.  He explained  that notices  of violation                                                                    
were typically referred to the Department of Law.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson looked  at slide  11 and  stated her                                                                    
understanding it  was a  two-year process  for the  state to                                                                    
get primacy  over Subtitle C.  She stated  her understanding                                                                    
the cost was  $830,000 and the state  would receive $400,000                                                                    
back. She asked if it was  the full amount over two years or                                                                    
if there would  be additional cost to the state  in the next                                                                    
couple of years.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Brune  answered  it  was  an  annual  cost  of                                                                    
$830,000 paid fully  with general fund dollars  in the first                                                                    
two  years as  the  state pursued  primacy.  Once the  state                                                                    
received  primacy  from the  EPA,  the  state would  receive                                                                    
$400,000 annually from the EPA  which would replace $400,000                                                                    
in general funds.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Johnson wondered why  the state would want to                                                                    
take over  primacy if it  would cost the state  $430,000 per                                                                    
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Brune  emphasized   the  importance  of  local                                                                    
control  of  local  permitting.  He  stated  the  department                                                                    
wanted people  who understood Alaska  and the  importance of                                                                    
the   environment,  handling   hazardous   waste,  and   the                                                                    
wetlands, rather than  having people out of  state in charge                                                                    
who rarely  visit. The  department believed  local expertise                                                                    
was important to be able  to give counsel to people applying                                                                    
for permits.  He wanted to provide  accessibility to Alaskan                                                                    
regulators on  a daily  basis to  help protect  human health                                                                    
and the  environment. He believed  it was a  good investment                                                                    
of state general funds.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Johnson provided  a scenario  where a  local                                                                    
government had an  issue with the EPA. She asked  if the EPA                                                                    
could supersede  the state and  do its own  enforcement. She                                                                    
thought  it seemed  to be  that way  currently. She  did not                                                                    
know how it  would work when the state  assumed the proposed                                                                    
level of primacy.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:39:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Brune  answered  that   as  with  any  federal                                                                    
primacy  program,  federal  laws  were  passed  by  Congress                                                                    
(e.g., Clean  Air Act,  Clean water Act,  and RCRA)  and the                                                                    
programs were  designed to be  assumed by states.  He stated                                                                    
that with  respect to RCRA Subtitle  C, 48 of 50  states had                                                                    
chosen to do so. He confirmed  that at any point the federal                                                                    
government  could  come and  ensure  the  states were  doing                                                                    
things   appropriately   and    provide   enforcement   when                                                                    
necessary. He explained  that when a state  had primacy, the                                                                    
federal   government   was  required   through   cooperative                                                                    
federalism  to  consult  and  work with  the  state  on  any                                                                    
concerns. The  likelihood of  the federal  government coming                                                                    
in was  far less if  the state had  primacy and was  done in                                                                    
collaboration with the state if it happened.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  remarked it appeared the  change would                                                                    
give  the  state  more flexibility  related  to  permitting,                                                                    
appeals, and  enforcement. He stated,  "As an  advantage for                                                                    
the cost  benefit analysis,  it would pay  for the  state in                                                                    
that sense."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Brune agreed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:41:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kostik moved  to slide 12 and relayed  that ocean ranger                                                                    
fees were  collected from cruise ships.  She elaborated that                                                                    
a recent lawsuit against the  City and Borough of Juneau had                                                                    
determined  paying  for  fish  tissue  testing  was  not  an                                                                    
appropriate   use   of    the   funds.   Consequently,   the                                                                    
administration was requesting to  change the fund source for                                                                    
fish  tissue testing  from  ocean ranger  fees  to UGF.  She                                                                    
noted  there  had been  a  similar  fund source  change  the                                                                    
previous  year   for  commercial  passenger  fees   for  the                                                                    
commercial  shellfish  testing   program.  The  fund  source                                                                    
change  on  slide  12  provided  the  last  funding  cleanup                                                                    
associated with cruise ship fees  used for things other than                                                                    
cruise ship activities.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  stated that frequently  there were                                                                    
discussions on  the House floor  about the  dividend formula                                                                    
not  being  complied with  and  that  the school  bond  debt                                                                    
program  [statutory  language]  used the  word  "shall."  He                                                                    
asked  if  the   state  still  had  a  law   in  place  that                                                                    
anticipated having actual ocean rangers on vessels.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Brune  replied that  the law  was still  on the                                                                    
books.  He   relayed  that  ocean   rangers  could   be  DEC                                                                    
employees. He detailed DEC employees  had been on every ship                                                                    
that entered Alaska waters in  the past year. He referred to                                                                    
a bill recently introduced  by the administration related to                                                                    
ocean rangers.  The administration believed DEC  staff did a                                                                    
better  job and  could  do a  better  job incorporating  the                                                                    
oversight  as well  as using  technology  to oversee  cruise                                                                    
ships in Alaska waters.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kostik  advanced to  slide 13 and  relayed that  Title I                                                                    
air quality  permits were issued for  construction projects,                                                                    
whereas  Title   V  permits  were  operating   permits.  She                                                                    
detailed that  Title I fees  were collected as  general fund                                                                    
program receipts  and Title V  fees were collected  as clean                                                                    
air protection  funds. She explained  that EPA  guidance had                                                                    
changed  so   that  moving  forward,  projects   that  would                                                                    
ultimately  be  operating  permits   or  projects  would  be                                                                    
classified  as  Title  V  from  the  beginning.  The  change                                                                    
resulted  a  change in  the  fund  source for  incoming  fee                                                                    
revenue. Consequently, the department  was requesting a fund                                                                    
source change  from general fund  program receipts  to clean                                                                    
air  protection funds.  Additionally,  the  item cleaned  up                                                                    
some hollow federal authority.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:44:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kostik turned  to slide 14 and  explained the prevention                                                                    
account  of   the  Oil   and  Hazardous   Substance  Release                                                                    
Prevention  and Response  Fund  was funded  by  a $0.04  per                                                                    
barrel surcharge on crude oil as  well as a $0.95 per gallon                                                                    
surcharge  on refined  fuel. There  was  also cost  recovery                                                                    
from responsible parties. The  department did not anticipate                                                                    
collecting sufficient  revenue to cover the  base budget for                                                                    
FY 23 and  would no longer have a fund  balance to help make                                                                    
up the difference.  She detailed that SPAR  had taken budget                                                                    
cuts in  recent years to try  to address some of  the annual                                                                    
shortfall   in  revenue   collection.  The   department  was                                                                    
requesting holding  the budget steady without  further cuts.                                                                    
As such, the  budget included a fund source  change from the                                                                    
prevention  account to  UGF to  make up  the difference  for                                                                    
what  was collectible.  She  noted  the governor's  original                                                                    
request  was $1,275,200  and the  governor's amended  budget                                                                    
increased  the number  by $43,000  based on  an update  made                                                                    
after  the  release of  the  fall  revenue projections.  The                                                                    
increment ensured SPAR would be  held harmless in the coming                                                                    
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson appreciated  the  UGF dollars  for                                                                    
the SPAR  account. He asked  if the SPAR account  balance of                                                                    
close to $8  million had been swept  into the Constitutional                                                                    
Budget Reserve (CBR).                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Brune replied affirmatively.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson spoke to  the sustainability of the                                                                    
fund  and remarked  that the  fund had  been depleting  even                                                                    
with the $8  million. He asked if  the fund's sustainability                                                                    
had been  partially eliminated  due to  the sweep.  He noted                                                                    
that  theoretically, groups  like the  Prince William  Sound                                                                    
Regional Citizens  Advisory Council that cared  about SPAR's                                                                    
solvency  and  health  could come  back  every  December  or                                                                    
January requesting UGF.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Brune agreed.  He  relayed he  had focused  on                                                                    
bringing sustainability  to SPAR over the  past three years.                                                                    
He  characterized  the UGF  component  as  exciting and  was                                                                    
pleased there  would be  general fund  dollars for  SPAR. He                                                                    
highlighted  the  way  to  increase  SPAR's  budget  was  to                                                                    
increase [oil]  production because SPAR was  funded at $0.04                                                                    
per  barrel. He  was glad  to  see there  were general  fund                                                                    
dollars  after  the monies  had  been  swept. He  noted  the                                                                    
department had been  on the record the past  couple of years                                                                    
supporting an  increase to the  refined fuel  surcharge from                                                                    
$0.95 per gallon to $1.05 per gallon.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:48:29 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  emphasized the statement  that the                                                                    
administration was on the record  for supporting an increase                                                                    
in the surcharge  from $0.95 per gallon to  $1.05 per gallon                                                                    
for SPAR.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Brune confirmed the statement.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Kostik discussed the assumption  of 404 primacy on slide                                                                    
15. She  explained that Section  404 of the Clean  Water Act                                                                    
regulated the  discharge of dredged and  fill materials into                                                                    
waters and wetlands. Activities  permitted under Section 404                                                                    
may   include  site   improvement   fill  for   residential,                                                                    
commercial,  or  recreational development;  construction  of                                                                    
breakwaters, levies,  dams, dikes,  or weirs;  and placement                                                                    
of  fill material  for roads,  airports,  or buildings.  She                                                                    
elaborated that Alaska's  wetlands covered approximately 174                                                                    
million acres or about 43  percent of Alaska's surface area.                                                                    
She  asserted   that  Alaska  would  benefit   from  instate                                                                    
oversight.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Kostik  explained   that  a   state-run  program   was                                                                    
accountable  to  Alaskans  and  the  legislature  and  would                                                                    
assure Alaska had control of  its permitting priorities. She                                                                    
continued that  primacy enabled the  state to  integrate the                                                                    
dredge and  fill program with  other land and  water related                                                                    
management programs. She stated  the results would be faster                                                                    
permitting  and stable  risk-based enforcement.  She relayed                                                                    
permits  issued under  404  primacy  would reflect  Alaska's                                                                    
unique  conditions  with Alaska-specific  program  guidance.                                                                    
She explained that a state-run  Section 404 would reduce the                                                                    
uncertainty  resulting  from shifting  national  priorities.                                                                    
The change would build on work  done by DEC in 2014 and 2015                                                                    
when   the  legislature   gave   the  department   statutory                                                                    
authority   to  pursue   primacy.  Similar   to  RCRA,   the                                                                    
department  anticipated a  two-year  application process  to                                                                    
achieve primacy.  The request  was $4.9  million UGF  and 28                                                                    
positions. The department anticipated  adding funding for an                                                                    
additional four positions in FY 24.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:50:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen asked  what  type of  work the  28                                                                    
positions would do until the 404 primacy was approved.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Brune answered that  the process had started in                                                                    
2012/2013 when the legislature  gave statutory authority for                                                                    
DEC  to  pursue  primacy.  He   relayed  the  process  would                                                                    
continue where it left off.  In conjunction with the EPA and                                                                    
Corps of  Engineers, the department  had to  determine which                                                                    
lands  were assumable  for permitting.  He elaborated  there                                                                    
would be certain  lands maintained by the corps  and EPA. He                                                                    
noted  the  state  wanted  as  much as  it  could  get.  The                                                                    
department  would  also  work with  the  Fish  and  Wildlife                                                                    
Service and  the National Marine Fisheries  Service on doing                                                                    
the  biological  opinion  on  how  the  state  would  handle                                                                    
Endangered  Species  Act  consultations  going  forward.  He                                                                    
continued  that if  the state  was granted  primacy, it  was                                                                    
possible National  Environmental Policy Act  (NEPA) analyses                                                                    
would  not be  done because  there  would not  be a  federal                                                                    
nexus. He clarified it was not  to say that what was done as                                                                    
part of  NEPA would not  be overseen by DEC.  The department                                                                    
would have to  have an agreement with  federal agencies like                                                                    
the NMFS and  Fish and Wildlife Service  on how consultation                                                                    
for endangered species would occur.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Brune continued  to address  slide 15  and 404                                                                    
primacy. He explained  that other work would  be done trying                                                                    
to  get the  expertise for  overseeing the  state's wetlands                                                                    
and permitting. He relayed the  application process would be                                                                    
lengthy.  He  highlighted  there   were  three  states  with                                                                    
primacy.  He  detailed  that New  Jersey  and  Michigan  had                                                                    
primacy  for  a  couple  of decades  and  Florida  had  just                                                                    
recently been granted  primacy in the past year  and a half.                                                                    
He  had  a number  of  conversations  with Florida's  former                                                                    
secretary  of environment  to talk  about Florida's  process                                                                    
and look at its application.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:53:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen asked  what could  be expected  in                                                                    
terms  of the  time  expedited on  permits  if the  proposal                                                                    
passed and was implemented.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Brune   answered   that  depending   on   the                                                                    
complexity of a project, certain  projects would not have to                                                                    
go  through NEPA  if the  state had  primacy. He  elaborated                                                                    
there  was significant  time savings  when projects  did not                                                                    
have   to   do   an  environmental   impact   statement   or                                                                    
environmental assessments.  He spoke about the  advantage of                                                                    
the ability to  coordinate the functions of  the 404 program                                                                    
with  the  402  program   or  National  Pollution  Discharge                                                                    
Elimination  System  (NPDES)  permitting. He  detailed  that                                                                    
currently the  department had to  go back and  forth between                                                                    
the  EPA,   Corps  of  Engineers,   and  DEC  for   the  401                                                                    
certifications. There would be  significant time savings. He                                                                    
noted that  there may not be  much of a difference  for some                                                                    
projects and others would result  in a significant time save                                                                    
savings.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  asked  if  the  permitting  for  fill                                                                    
material  into  waters  and   wetlands  was  primarily  done                                                                    
through the  Corps of Engineers. He  recalled having clients                                                                    
who  had   been  frustrated  with  the   permitting  process                                                                    
timeline.  He  stated  the  subjectivity  of  defining  what                                                                    
constituted  wetlands   had  also  been  a   high  level  of                                                                    
frustration.  He suggested  it had  been so  frustrating for                                                                    
construction developers  and project managers that  they had                                                                    
decided to move forward and ask for permission later.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Brune confirmed  that the  Corps of  Engineers                                                                    
oversaw  the  404  permitting.  He  clarified  the  EPA  was                                                                    
responsible for granting  primacy and had the  final say. He                                                                    
relayed the EPA had been  helpful throughout the process and                                                                    
had met with the department  a number of times. He explained                                                                    
the  programs  were designed  to  be  assumed by  the  state                                                                    
because  states knew  their  wetlands  and geography  better                                                                    
than  anyone.  He  emphasized   that  having  the  expertise                                                                    
developed within  the state  would be  vital and  would help                                                                    
decrease the timeframes, especially  as people cycled in and                                                                    
out of the state in the  Corps. He believed the change would                                                                    
help  bring  predictability  and  would  help  mitigate  the                                                                    
impact on wetlands during proposed projects.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:58:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz referenced  the  requested increments  for                                                                    
404  primacy  and RCRA  totaling  $5.7  million UGF  and  32                                                                    
additional state  positions. He thought  it seemed to  be in                                                                    
the  opposite  direction   from  the  administration's  past                                                                    
budgeting process  efforts. He asked why  the administration                                                                    
was pursuing the idea at present.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Brune  answered the department had  mandates to                                                                    
pursue primacy  for RCRA and  404 as directed in  law passed                                                                    
by  previous   legislatures.  He   stated  the   timing  was                                                                    
expedited  as the  state wanted  control and  oversight over                                                                    
its   permitting   processes.  The   administration   wanted                                                                    
Alaskans   permitting  Alaska   projects   (as  opposed   to                                                                    
individuals permitting  projects from out of  state). He and                                                                    
the governor believed  timing was of the  essence. He stated                                                                    
that  no one  knew the  state's wetlands  and how  to handle                                                                    
hazardous waste  like Alaskans did. He  believed the present                                                                    
was the ideal time.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  highlighted the  bullet point on  slide 15                                                                    
that one  of the  benefits would  be to  provide streamlined                                                                    
permitting   and   greater   certainty  to   the   regulated                                                                    
community. He  asked if there  had been a recent  backlog of                                                                    
projects  that had  not received  permits. He  asked for  an                                                                    
example of a  project that may be permitted  more quickly if                                                                    
the state assumed  404 primacy. He asked if the  goal was to                                                                    
move  certain  projects  along  and  if  so,  what  type  of                                                                    
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Brune  answered it  had been a  steady buildup.                                                                    
He detailed that  with respect to RCRA, 48 of  50 states had                                                                    
assumed primacy.  He believed it  was time for Alaska  to do                                                                    
so. With  respect to 404,  he believed having  the expertise                                                                    
gleaned  from the  State of  Florida  had demonstrated  that                                                                    
things could  be done and  overseen by people in  Alaska. He                                                                    
did not  think a  specific project had  driven the  state to                                                                    
the  current  point.  He  highlighted  the  administrations'                                                                    
overall goal of having Alaskans  in charge of permitting the                                                                    
projects  and  protecting  Alaskans' human  health  and  the                                                                    
environment.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:02:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson stated  that the  Clean Water  Act                                                                    
was  a Nixon  era  law  that was  updated  under the  Carter                                                                    
administration. He  asked for  verification that  only three                                                                    
states had assumed 404 permitting primacy.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Brune  confirmed there  were three  states with                                                                    
primacy over 404. He believed the  law had been put in place                                                                    
during the  Nixon administration. He stated  that Alaska had                                                                    
175  million acres  of  wetlands. He  pointed  out that  the                                                                    
Lower 48 used to have 200  million acres of wetlands and the                                                                    
number had  been reduced  to 100  million. He  remarked that                                                                    
those  in charge  of overseeing  wetland  permitting in  the                                                                    
Lower  48  had chosen  to  pave  their  states and  not  pay                                                                    
attention  to the  ecological value  of wetlands.  He stated                                                                    
that less  than one  quarter of one  percent of  the state's                                                                    
wetlands had been impacted. He  continued that the state was                                                                    
the  best   judge  to  understand  how   its  wetlands  were                                                                    
protected,   to   allow   projects  to   go   forward   when                                                                    
appropriate, and  to mitigate the  impact of the  dredge and                                                                    
fill activity. He thought it was the right time.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  stated it  was the seminal  act in                                                                    
the dispute  over the Pebble  headwaters. He stated  that if                                                                    
Alaska assumed  primacy, the litigation  would no  longer be                                                                    
captioned "EPA versus X" but Alaskans challenging DEC.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Brune  thought the  Pebble project  was complex                                                                    
and likely  would have had  a federal  nexus one way  or the                                                                    
other.  He had  worked on  the project  and noted  there had                                                                    
been discussions  of a  port, LNG  import facilities,  and a                                                                    
number of things  that would have a federal  nexus and would                                                                    
require federal  permitting. There were certain  areas where                                                                    
the state  would assume  primacy and  other areas  where the                                                                    
Corps of Engineers would maintain  them. He relayed that the                                                                    
department  would opt  to receive  100 percent  of the  404;                                                                    
however,  the law  was written  to ensure  navigable waters,                                                                    
ports, harbors, and  others were maintained by  the Corps of                                                                    
Engineers.  He  believed there  was  a  high likelihood  the                                                                    
federal nexus would have remained  for the Pebble project, a                                                                    
NEPA  analysis would  have  been  conducted, and  litigation                                                                    
against  the  project  would  have  been  with  the  federal                                                                    
government as well.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster thanked the presenters.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW: GOVERNOR'S BUDGET AMENDMENTS                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:05:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster noted that the  meeting would recess at 3:30                                                                    
p.m.  until  the  following  morning at  9:00  a.m.  if  not                                                                    
completed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
NEIL STEININGER, DIRECTOR, OFFICE  OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,                                                                    
OFFICE  OF  THE  GOVERNOR, referenced  several  spreadsheets                                                                    
showing  governor's proposed  amendments for  the operating,                                                                    
capital,  and   supplemental  budgets.   He  began   with  a                                                                    
spreadsheet titled "FY23  Operating Governor Amended," dated                                                                    
February  14, 2022  (copy on  file). Item  1 was  $75,000 in                                                                    
retirement   system   funds   within   the   Department   of                                                                    
Administration  (DOA) for  educational outreach  for members                                                                    
of  Teachers'  Retirement System  (TRS)  to  inform them  of                                                                    
their ability  to enter into  the Social Security  system if                                                                    
they  chose. Item  2 was  a $5  million increment,  of which                                                                    
$1.6 million came from unrestricted  general funds (UGF). He                                                                    
detailed there  had been multiple  components in  the budget                                                                    
related to  salary and  benefit adjustments  negotiated with                                                                    
the Labor, Trades, and Crafts  bargaining unit. Item 3 was a                                                                    
reduction  of  $400,000  in the  Division  of  Corporations,                                                                    
Business  and Professional  Licensing (CBPL).  He elaborated                                                                    
the governor's  budget had included  $1.5 million  to ensure                                                                    
the  division  did  not  have   to  raise  license  fees  to                                                                    
licensees.  Since  that  time in  December,  the  department                                                                    
determined  it   only  needed  $1.1  million   in  order  to                                                                    
accomplish the goal.  The item reflected a  reduction in the                                                                    
authority.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  moved to a  technical correction on  line 4.                                                                    
He detailed there  was an associated $7  million increase in                                                                    
the  language section  on the  last page  in the  packet. He                                                                    
relayed  the   transaction  associated  with   the  language                                                                    
section  was flagged  as non-language  in the  budget system                                                                    
which caused it to end up in the bill.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:08:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  moved  to item  5  pertaining  to  multiple                                                                    
components within  the Department of Corrections  (DOC). The                                                                    
item was  $4.8 million  including $4.4 million  UGF for  a 2                                                                    
percent   cost  of   living   adjustment   (COLA)  for   the                                                                    
Correctional Officers  Association. Item  6 was  a technical                                                                    
correction  to  the description  of  an  item in  population                                                                    
management  related   to  the  geographic   distribution  of                                                                    
positions  added in  the  governor's budget.  Item  7 was  a                                                                    
small  adjustment  to  the  Technical  Vocational  Education                                                                    
Program (TVEP) funding.  He noted there were  several of the                                                                    
items  throughout the  amendment  packet.  He explained  the                                                                    
program  [funding]   was  based   on  an   estimate  updated                                                                    
throughout the  year. The  item reflected  an update  to the                                                                    
current  estimate  done  by  the  Department  of  Labor  and                                                                    
Workforce Development  (DLWD). Item 8 within  the Department                                                                    
of Environmental Conservation  (DEC) was $200,000 associated                                                                    
with   the   Exxon   Valdez  Oil   Spill   Trustee   Council                                                                    
administrative costs.  He noted  the council had  been moved                                                                    
from the Department of Fish and Game (DFG) to DEC.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger moved to item  9 within DEC totaling $125,000                                                                    
of  federal  indirect  costs (the  allowable  indirect  rate                                                                    
billed to  federal programs) that  could be used  to support                                                                    
the operational  and maintenance costs of  the environmental                                                                    
health laboratory. Item  10 was a correction  to the general                                                                    
funds  needed   to  ensure  the  operations   of  the  Spill                                                                    
Prevention and Response (SPAR) program  within DEC. He noted                                                                    
the prior presenter had discussed  the calculation to ensure                                                                    
the program  was fully funded  and some of the  changes that                                                                    
occurred  after the  release of  the December  budget, which                                                                    
required  an additional  $43,000 in  general funds.  Item 11                                                                    
pertained to  the Office of Children's  Services (OCS) under                                                                    
the  Department   of  Family  and  Community   Services  for                                                                    
workforce  stabilization  bonuses   totaling  $3.5  million,                                                                    
including  $2.2 million  UGF. The  funding  was intended  to                                                                    
address recruitment  and retention challenges facing  OCS in                                                                    
the past several years.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:10:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger moved  to page 2, item  12 including $169,700                                                                    
UGF to  address traumatic  stress issues experienced  by OCS                                                                    
frontline social  workers. He added  that the  previous item                                                                    
and  upcoming items  [items 11  through 19]  were part  of a                                                                    
package  to address  staff  and children  at  OCS and  needs                                                                    
brought  up   as  part  of   the  governor's   People  First                                                                    
initiative.  Item   13  was  $900,000  and   four  temporary                                                                    
positions   within  [OCS]   frontline  social   workers.  He                                                                    
elaborated   the  positions   were  long-term   nonpermanent                                                                    
supervisory positions to help  the organization work through                                                                    
some of the recruitment and  retention issues. Item 14 was a                                                                    
field  training compensation  program to  provide additional                                                                    
training  opportunities  to  OCS   staff.  Item  15  was  26                                                                    
additional staff for OCS including  support staff and direct                                                                    
workers in  addition to workers  to help support  and ensure                                                                    
the success of the Tribal  Welfare compact. The item totaled                                                                    
$2.8 million and $1.8 million UGF.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  moved  to item  16,  $100,000  to  increase                                                                    
support  for  vocational   opportunities  and  training  for                                                                    
youths exiting the foster care  system. Item 17 was $200,000                                                                    
for a  partnership with the  Alaska Impact Alliance  to work                                                                    
on evidence-based  program development for OCS.  Item 18 was                                                                    
$700,000  for the  foster care  special needs  program where                                                                    
costs above and beyond the  base rate paid to foster parents                                                                    
were accounted for.  The funding was to address  some of the                                                                    
youths with more  complex life situations that  needed to be                                                                    
dealt with  by foster parents.  Item 19 included  $1 million                                                                    
for OCS  supporting foster children  from 18 to 21  years of                                                                    
age.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:14:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon looked at item  13 and asked what long-                                                                    
term nonpermanent  positions were.  He asked if  there would                                                                    
be a similar request for the next several budget cycles.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger answered that  long-term nonpermanent was one                                                                    
of  the main  state  position  categories. Other  categories                                                                    
included  permanent   full-time,  temporary,   and  seasonal                                                                    
positions.   He   explained  that   long-term   nonpermanent                                                                    
positions  were  temporary  in nature  with  a  longer  term                                                                    
outlook.  He elaborated  the specific  situation included  a                                                                    
project to  address some of the  recruitment, retention, and                                                                    
support needs within  OCS. There was not  a precise deadline                                                                    
when the  need for the  positions would cease.  He furthered                                                                    
that the  needs were  not permanent;  therefore, it  was not                                                                    
fair to  hire a  position advertised  as permanent  when the                                                                    
need  may  not go  on  indefinitely.  The position  category                                                                    
aimed to signal the position  was for a project or something                                                                    
of  that   nature  that  had  an   expiration  whether  that                                                                    
expiration was known or not.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:15:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon  asked  if  a  long-term  nonpermanent                                                                    
position became  automatically permanent at some  point time                                                                    
if the situation persisted for more than two to four years.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  answered there  was no  time frame  when the                                                                    
classification  of position  became  permanent. He  detailed                                                                    
that  because the  position was  flagged differently  than a                                                                    
permanent  full-time position,  it  was easier  to check  in                                                                    
with the department  to see how the  project was progressing                                                                    
and whether the  position could be removed  from the budget.                                                                    
In some situations,  long-term nonpermanent positions became                                                                    
permanent  (e.g.,  positions  that  had been  around  for  a                                                                    
decade).                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  asked if the success  of the positions                                                                    
lead  the administration  to someday  determine to  keep the                                                                    
positions  long-term. He  wondered  if  the label  long-term                                                                    
nonpermanent would  continue for  several years.  He decided                                                                    
it was possible.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger replied  that the  goal was  for a  surge in                                                                    
support to  stabilize OCS and its  recruitment and retention                                                                    
issues.  The idea  was to  help the  agency become  a better                                                                    
place where  staff stayed longer.  He stated  that hopefully                                                                    
the positions would not be needed long-term.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Rasmussen  asked   if   other  states   had                                                                    
implemented  a  similar  strategy. She  wondered  about  the                                                                    
rationale  behind  the  method.  She  was  not  certain  how                                                                    
temporary  nonpermanent positions  would  lead to  stability                                                                    
and help for OCS.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:18:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Steininger  responded   that  long-term   nonpermanent                                                                    
positions were  used to staff  up larger than  the long-term                                                                    
need,   especially   when   there  was   significant   staff                                                                    
attrition. The hope was to be  able to stabilize some of the                                                                    
workflow and the  pressure put on staff.  He elaborated when                                                                    
there  was significant  attrition, the  workload was  put on                                                                    
the shoulders  of existing staff  and the  situation started                                                                    
becoming  unsustainable. Having  a surge  in staffing  could                                                                    
help alleviate  some of the  workload concerns.  There would                                                                    
continue to  be some  attrition naturally due  to retirement                                                                    
or people  moving on or  up. The  goal was to  stabilize and                                                                    
land at a lower level  of staffing dictated by the permanent                                                                    
long-term  workload. The  idea was  to relieve  some of  the                                                                    
workload and make the job more doable.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen stated  it appeared  the item  was                                                                    
for a supervisory unit. She  did not know how the department                                                                    
expected to fill the new  positions when there was currently                                                                    
difficulty  with  recruitment.  She imagined  the  work  was                                                                    
specialized  and  required  a social  work  background.  She                                                                    
wondered how the department planned execute the plan.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger  replied that the department  could follow up                                                                    
with  more  information.  He pointed  to  an  increment  for                                                                    
workforce stabilization bonuses aimed  at addressing some of                                                                    
the  recruitment and  retention  issues. The  administration                                                                    
was hoping  the combination  of all  of the  various support                                                                    
items would help address some of the recruitment issues.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:21:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger moved  to page  3, line  20. The  governor's                                                                    
December 15  budget included the  addition of  two positions                                                                    
to  support  the  new Department  of  Family  and  Community                                                                    
Services including  a new department technology  officer and                                                                    
a new  administrative services director under  the Office of                                                                    
Information  Technology and  the  Office  of Management  and                                                                    
Budget  respectively;  however, the  money  to  pay for  the                                                                    
positions had inadvertently been  left out. The increment on                                                                    
line 20  would pay for  the positions. Item 21  was $550,000                                                                    
in  federal grants  for DFG  subsistence research.  Lines 22                                                                    
and 24  under the  Department of  Health relocated  a mental                                                                    
health trust  Crisis Now  continuum of  care grant.  Item 23                                                                    
was $200,000  UGF under the Department  of Health associated                                                                    
with  a multi-partner  partnership to  expand the  Master of                                                                    
Social  Work degree  program at  the  University of  Alaska.                                                                    
Partners included  the state and private  entities to expand                                                                    
the capacity at the university.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger moved to line 25,  a new item from the Alaska                                                                    
Mental  Health  Trust  Authority   (AMHTA)  that  would  add                                                                    
$285,000 for the  Open Beds program. The  increment would go                                                                    
to a software system supported by  the trust. Item 26 was an                                                                    
adjustment to TVEP  under DLWD. Item 27 was  $1.7 million in                                                                    
federal receipts  for increases  to existing  federal grants                                                                    
for DLWD.  He noted  that the  $550,000 on  line 21  was not                                                                    
associated with the federal  infrastructure bill. The grants                                                                    
were existing  outside the federal  investment. Item  28 was                                                                    
another adjustment to TVEP.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:24:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  moved to  item  29  for the  Department  of                                                                    
Natural Resources.  The item was $262,000  and two positions                                                                    
related to  working on  power diversification  and renewable                                                                    
energies  in the  State  of  Alaska. Items  30  and 31  were                                                                    
adjustments to add  detail on how the  Department of Natural                                                                    
Resources  (DNR)  would  manage  its  partnership  with  the                                                                    
Future Farmers of America group.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger   turned  to  page  4,   line  32  including                                                                    
approximately $171,000  for the Department of  Public Safety                                                                    
(DPS). He  elaborated that  36 positions  had been  added in                                                                    
the FY  21 budget  but were  only funded  at 75  percent. As                                                                    
more   trooper  positions   were  filled,   the  state   was                                                                    
completing  the   remaining  25  percent  funding   for  the                                                                    
positions. Item 33  was a change to the  description for the                                                                    
missing  and murdered  indigenous  persons  addition to  the                                                                    
Alaska State  Trooper detachments.  The increment  would add                                                                    
more  clarity  as  a  result  of  conversations  during  the                                                                    
subcommittee process.  Item 34 was  a fund source  change in                                                                    
the DPS Bureau  of Investigations. He explained  that as the                                                                    
department  looked  at  its state  homeland  security  grant                                                                    
awards,  it  realized the  funds  had  been budgeted  as  IA                                                                    
[interagency] but should have  been CIP [capital improvement                                                                    
program]. Both  fund sources were "other"  funds; therefore,                                                                    
the increment reflected a net  zero change. Item 35 included                                                                    
an adjustment to the description  to clarify the location of                                                                    
some additional Wildlife Trooper  positions. Item 36 was for                                                                    
the  Department of  Revenue and  corrected a  rate reduction                                                                    
that had inadvertently occurred twice [in FY 22 and FY 23].                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:26:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  shared  that  rows  37,  39,  and  40  were                                                                    
adjustments to  ensure federal funding  for the  Silver Tip,                                                                    
Chitina,   Birch  Lake,   and  Dalton   Highway  maintenance                                                                    
stations was accurately reflected.  He explained that as the                                                                    
administration worked  through the scenario to  maximize the                                                                    
use  of federal  funds in  the Department  of Transportation                                                                    
and  Public   Facilities  operating  budget,  a   couple  of                                                                    
maintenance stations  added back to the  budget the previous                                                                    
year  had dropped  off of  the analysis.  The federal  funds                                                                    
would support the opening of  the maintenance stations. Rows                                                                    
38, 41, and 42 were related  to COLAs for the Labor, Trades,                                                                    
and  Crafts bargaining  unit and  ensured  the correct  fund                                                                    
source  was assigned.  Item 43  corrected fund  source usage                                                                    
from designated  general funds to  other funds. Item  44 was                                                                    
another adjustment to  TVEP. Item 45 was  a small adjustment                                                                    
requested by the Court System.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Steininger  turned  to  page 5,  line  46  showing  the                                                                    
opposite  side of  a technical  correction shown  on page  1                                                                    
related  to Alaska  Seafood Marketing  Institute (ASMI)  and                                                                    
federal funding received by the agency the previous year.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster believed the total FY 23 operating budget                                                                       
change was $14.8 million.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Steininger agreed.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster noted the committee would hear a review of                                                                      
the governor's supplemental and capital amendments the                                                                          
following morning.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HB 281 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                              
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB 282 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                              
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster reviewed the schedule for the following                                                                         
day.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
^RECESSED until February 23, 2022 at 9:00 A.M.                                                                                
3:30:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
DEC HFC Department Overview 02.22.2022.pdf HFIN 2/22/2022 1:30:00 PM
FY2022_Supplemental_Summary_2-14-22.pdf HFIN 2/22/2022 1:30:00 PM
(All Sup Bills) HFIN Amendment Overview OMB
HB 281 FY2023_Operating_Amendments_2-14-22.pdf HFIN 2/22/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 281
HB 283 FY2023 Governor Amend Bill Capital Summary Spreadsheet - 2.14.2022 Final v2.pdf HFIN 2/22/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 283
HB 284 FY2022_Supplemental_Amendments_2-14-22.pdf HFIN 2/22/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 284
HB 284 re Amendment Legal Letter to Co-Chairs 2-16-22.pdf HFIN 2/22/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 284